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3186..eta, seagull or hanghzou..

ActrisduX

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Hello,
I have a question regarding a movement that is installed on one of my watches. It's a pepsi GMT, the movement in question is a 3186...but it's not a Rolex clone, it was engraved 3186 but it's a copy of an ETA or Hangzhou...it's possible to find it on the internet if I want to buy one? On aliexpress, I managed to find a 3135 but it's a copy of the Rolex engraved 2824...
I give you the link.

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005...=glo2fra&spm=a2g0o.9042311.0.0.27426c37qVbTNf

thank you.
 
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ActrisduX

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Thank you for your answer. I know the one in the link is wrong.

In my pepsi I have a 3186, but it's not a Rolex clone, it looks to me like a 2836 engraved in 3186 or a hangzhou 6460...I know that seagull had modified 2836 in 3285, but they can't be found... so I don't know where to find this kind of movement...
 

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Thank you for your answer. I know the one in the link is wrong.

In my pepsi I have a 3186, but it's not a Rolex clone, it looks to me like a 2836 engraved in 3186 or a hangzhou 6460...I know that seagull had modified 2836 in 3285, but they can't be found... so I don't know where to find this kind of movement...

It's 2824. Don't know if they sell them anymore, maybe try TD. Most manufacturers moved to Rolex clones and abandoned timebomb movement.

You can replace it with 2836 GMT but you are going to need new hands.
 

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Here are the photos:







Thanks Oascom...i thought it was that kind of movement...yes, they are nowhere to be found, now if i want to change it, i take a rolex clone, but i will have to change the hands and maybe also the dial..

If ever, I put a link of the store where I bought it, take a good look at the photos, it says it's a 3285, but on the photos, we can see that it's a 2824 or rather a 2836. .. also look at the link, it is well written 2836...

https://vtrtimewatch.io/gmt-master-...est-edition-black-dial-on-bracelet-a2836.html
 

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Fairly certain the movement in the watch in the link is a2824 timebomb based on the correct hand stack (hour, gmt red hour, min, second). However, as you pointed out, yours is marked differently 3186 and has older style 3186 rotor, possible its a2836. Also just looking at the crown guards, you might have been bamboozled with an old switcheroo by dealer since it looks like your watch is a completely different one than the one in the link, so possible movement / hand stack is different as well.

What order hand stack is your watch? If it's red gmt hand, hour hand, min, second, then it might be a2836 and as mentioned that is a lot easier to find a replacement and more durable. If its its 2824, not sure the 2836 will fit as replacement in case due to stem height difference.
 
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ActrisduX

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the hands are fixed as follows, Hour, Gmt, minute and to finish at the very top, second.

The setting is done like a real gmt I guess, I pull the rod, I set the time and the date snaps into place. DSecond position, I set the hour, gmt and minutes with the date that engages.
In fact, the movement is nice, it works well, but I have already repaired it twice by putting 2824 parts...but I know that seagull or hanghzou are also the same, well almost...