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ARF Raided and Down

RT8906

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Just got word that ARF has been raided and shut down today!

Is it just me or has the Chinese government stepped up their enforcement?
 
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kavorca1

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I hope its not because some factories have turned "Sammy the bull gravano" and are snitching on the ones that are still doing business.
 

BOSSK

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Does China’s legal system allow for plea deals and immunity from prosecution in exchange for information?
 

centrum

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My guy says AR is one of the factories that have closed temporarily among other factories. I'm not sure if AR got raided.

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RT8906

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My guy says AR is one of the factories that have closed temporarily among other factories. I'm not sure if AR got raided.

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Perhaps that is more accurate. Here is what I got:
“we just got the news , ARF closed from today . seems some factories raided again today , and nearlly all the factories closed from this afternoon”
 

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@roland8906

Just because you’re the OP

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But seriously thanks for the info. Like many other factories which got raided, they will be back don’t worry. Noob is supposedly closed but I’m still getting 2-3 QC pics for noob daytonas for guys who ordered them for modding. Watches are still being sneaked out from the factories which are supposedly closed but at a much slower rate.

Take heart and looking forward to the next set of lines drawn by you (sorry can’t resist) :legend:


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RT8906

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@roland8906

Just because you’re the OP

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But seriously thanks for the info. Like many other factories which got raided, they will be back don’t worry. Noob is supposedly closed but I’m still getting 2-3 QC pics for noob daytonas for guys who ordered them for modding. Watches are still being sneaked out from the factories which are supposedly closed but at a much slower rate.

Take heart and looking forward to the next set of lines drawn by you (sorry can’t resist) :legend:


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Oh, I see I have become a source of humour...

Seriously though, I’m am relieved that Noob’s heart is still beating! I would hate to loose them! I and my customers are looking forward to their V12 Submariner... I will be sure to draw lines and obsess. :thumbsup:
 
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Oh, I see I have become a source of humour...
Seriously though, I’m am relieved that Noob’s heart is still beating! I would hate to loose them! I and my customers are looking forward to their V12 Submariner... I will be sure to draw lines and obsess. :thumbsup:


You took it on the chin like a champ, so hats off to ya Sir.
The guys on here are super helpful at all times, but also like to play around, so :)

Thank you A btw, the owl gif is now saved on my phone for pestering my non-RWI mates, cheers :)

In all seriousnes though, thank you for the update re ARF, its first hand updates like this that are helpful to the community, not what ifs, rumours and supposition.

Have a great weekend.
 

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From what I've read on other reps forums, Chinese govt is on warpath, but. And this is a big but. Watches are such a small segment with respect to garments and other fashion goods that rep watches are likely to survive.
Ig nit in china then in india

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watcher71

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Every time I find a watch I want to order lately, there is a raid. I was just about to order a ARF single red sea-dweller. Do dealers have these in stock if factory is down or do all of their orders have to come directly from factory?
 

RT8906

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Every time I find a watch I want to order lately, there is a raid. I was just about to order a ARF single red sea-dweller. Do dealers have these in stock if factory is down or do all of their orders have to come directly from factory?

Welcome to the way it is. I have been waiting for a particular watch to be built for 6 months and just when my hopes rise VSF gets shut down.
 
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BMW M

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Every time I find a watch I want to order lately, there is a raid. I was just about to order a ARF single red sea-dweller. Do dealers have these in stock if factory is down or do all of their orders have to come directly from factory?

Feeling the exact same... wanted a VSF DJ then they got raided.. then wanted a Noob Daytona... raided. Then I finally settled for the ARF Daytona... raided. Thankfully I sourced a DJ on the secondary market recently.
 

watcher71

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Feeling the exact same... wanted a VSF DJ then they got raided.. then wanted a Noob Daytona... raided. Then I finally settled for the ARF Daytona... raided. Thankfully I sourced a DJ on the secondary market recently.

A TD just formed me the recent ARF raid did not happen. Internet rumor I guess?
 

MrDaydate

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A TD just formed me the recent ARF raid did not happen. Internet rumor I guess?

Yes, that is what I understand as well. Carefull to not throw the info around to much though. We don't want them to be raided due to info of their activity spread on forums...
I have orders pending!!
 

BMW M

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A TD just formed me the recent ARF raid did not happen. Internet rumor I guess?

I spoke with a few TDs that didn’t give me a straight answer but what they did tell me is that ARF isnt available at the moment
 
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alexbpm

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Every time I find a watch I want to order lately, there is a raid. I was just about to order a ARF single red sea-dweller. Do dealers have these in stock if factory is down or do all of their orders have to come directly from factory?

Same. I attempted to place an order for VRF Planet Ocean 42mm just days after they too were raided and shut down. Still waiting to place an order
 

mr1973

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Maybe, just maybe, they're all just relocating and/or restructuring. Whatever, I'm pretty sure they need to react in some way.

They're everything but stupid.