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mari115

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So you couldn't see my posts in your other thread, no problem, i'm ok to repost them here, so you can easily give us some explanation:



I stopped commenting Cr7’s last post because the mods were working on the situation and I wanted to let them do their job.

Here is another of the countless sales where Cr7 asks for 75$ for “all alignments” while we can clearly see that the bezel and dw are not aligned:




Now, what i wrote on the other thread seems very fitting for this thread as well:

"For example, charging 75$ for aligning something that should already be aligned if you charge 200 for the service. What are you gonna do? Service the watch and not reassembling it afterwards? Or assembling it and misalign things on purpose?

Even if in the end you really did what you claim you did (or should i say your watchsmith did? Since you don’t work on your watches for passion, you ask a third party to work on them to then resell them for a quick buck), and EVEN if it really was a job worth 75$, it shouldn’t really look like this in the end:




Is this 75 dollars worth of alignments?
Now, in one of your posts in this thread you said: "I also previously explained to you: that If you want 1:1 GEN like alignment then you need a GEN DW, dial, date plate, crystal, and gasket but you're incompetent to comprehend that this is not $5,000 replica.
Again you expect that all for $75, lol
"


First thing first, gen crystal and gasket don’t influence the alignment of the date disc in the date window, secondly, aren’t you kinda admitting that this 75$ job is useless because you won’t get an aligned DW even after paying for it?
I don’t think that you need to pay 5k for an aligned dw, moreover if after paying 75$ for an alignment it looks like this anyone would leave that alone.


Now, regarding the price and the state of the watch, you are asking FULL TD price (493$) for a watch that has blatantly been used, is the condition of that insert normal? or is that included in the 75$ alignment?




Again, this is from my post in the other thread (that reached 25 likes, so there has to be a number of people who share the same sentiments):


"It is quite clear that something is going on here, he always claims that he does this for hobby and he doesn't profiteer, but he's not the one modding the watches, his watchsmith does, so you wanna tell me that he orders the watches, he makes his watchsmith mod them, and then he resells them here "brand new" for hobby? This is blatant reselling and profiteering.

It's ok if you mod a watch, you have fun with building it and then you wear it a couple times and decide that it's not for you and you sell it, but buying brand new factory watches, asking SOMEONE ELSE to mod them, and then reselling them on the forum seems very shady to me. And goes against what i think is the spirit of the sales among us members.
"


And not only that, i missed it before, but there is clearly a fundamental Sales Rule that you are breaking:

"Profiteering: The ethos of RWI is to provide a reliable site to find information about Replica watches. The sales section is only a small part of what RWI is about. The purpose of the section is to provide a format for members to pass on items they no longer require. As a community the principle of not making a profit at the expense of our brothers and sisters on here is a big part of our ethos. We do not pass on fees and shipping costs and we do not list items for more than we paid for them."

Is reselling watches really a hobby? You wrote in the sales form “Why are you selling?: Modder” even if you don’t mod anything, you are acting as the middle man of your watchsmith that does the jobs.


Now, about the ID, dude seriously? Do you really think that the mods are stupid? Even if you really don’t have any ID on you (crazy thing, don’t you have your license?) while being confined at home for whatever reason, who in his entire life has never ever made a copy of it? Seems like you are trying to hide something, or taking your time for some reason.

One last thing, stop acting entitled, what's up with your behaviour? "Sorry if you feel that way" seriously? Being able to sell here is a privilege, this is not a place to flip watches in order to earn a quick buck.
 

mari115

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I had some time to waste between yesterday and today, and i looked for all ofCr7juv 's sales, i don't know if i missed some, but this is what i could find:

BIG DISCLAIMER HERE: i worked on it mostly late at night and to kill some time during lockdown, so it's plausible that i could have messed up some numbers, but the result is the same, and it's outstanding

These are ONLY Cr7's sales regarding WATCHES in his 1 year and 4 months of activity on the forum:

Here are some numbers starting after October 2018:

Gross income of 2018: 1,450$
November: 2 watches
775$

December: 1 watch
675$

Gross income of 2019: 79,860$
January: 2 watches
1345$

February: 1 watch
1250$

March: 4 watches
6343$

April: 7 watches
8734$

May: 2 watches
3250$

June: 5 watches
4982$

July: 7 watches
6992$

August: 6 watches
5485$

September: 7 watches
6310$

October: 8 watches
8106$

November: 8 watches
11815$

December: 14 watches
15248$

Gross income of 2020: 22,976$
january: 14 watches
15928$

February: 7 watches
7048$

TOTAL GROSS INCOME FOR WATCH SALES: 104,286$




But i'm not done yet!




Here are the numbers regarding his SPARE PARTS and MOVEMENTS sales:
(every date corresponds to a sale, i have all the links for all his sales but they do not fit in a single post)



25/12/12 285$

7/12/19 608$

26/11/19 763$

29/10/19 450$

20/10/19 190$

15/10/19 1355$

3/10/19 430$

18/09/19 1003$

26/8/19 1070$

17/8/19 135$

16/8/19 260$

28/7/19 650$

24/7/19 266$

11/7/19 250$

9/7/19 230$

27/6/19 250$

19/6/19 300$

29/5/19 1050$

7/5/19 400$

1/5/19 1640$

24/4/19 475$

5/4/19 1590$

2/4/19 620$

11/3/19 815$

27/2/19 300$

22/2/19 455$

29/1/19 695$



TOTAL GROSS INCOME OF PARTS SALES: 12.540$


GRAND TOTAL: 116,826$



Can he still say that he's doing it just for hobby? i don't know about you guys, but my hobby drains money, it doesn't let me earn more than 110k USD (gross) in one year and four months.
 

GingerBubba

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I'm trying really hard to take all of CR7's denials seriously, but whenever I read a post of his, all I hear in my brain is Bill Clinton's Southern drawl proclaiming, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman."
 

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If I profited for selling as the same price as everyone else, then everyone else profited.

...now go an walk your dog

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Won't give a straight answer will you just like you won't deny that you are not the person doing the work. What you are not saying is so much more telling than what you are.
 
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mari115

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Won't give a straight answer will you just like you won't deny that you are not the person doing the work. What you are not saying is so much more telling than what you are.

He's been online all this time, and he hasn't answered any of the points in my posts.

Wanna bet he's gonna ignore them, or avoid answering them directly? :p
 
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He's been online all this time, and he hasn't answered any of the points in my posts.

Wanna bet he's gonna ignore them, or avoid answering them directly? :p

He's not going to answer because you hit right to the heart of the issue. What he is doing would require him to become a Trusted Dealer which again, would require him revealing his true identity. I'm guessing he's been banned previously, but we shall see what the mods and admins can dig up. He'll talk in circles and avoid answering claiming he never scammed anyone. He misses (or ignores) the point that he's selling them for more then he paid which is only allowed if you are a supporting vendor or trusted dealer.
 
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mari115

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He's not going to answer because you hit right to the heart of the issue. What he is doing would require him to become a Trusted Dealer which again, would require him revealing his true identity. I'm guessing he's been banned previously, but we shall see what the mods and admins can dig up. He'll talk in circles and avoid answering claiming he never scammed anyone. He misses (or ignores) the point that he's selling them for more then he paid which is only allowed if you are a supporting vendor or trusted dealer.

Yeah, it's crazy.
 
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Oh now this IS "interesting" . . .


[FONT=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Stay tuned, need to check a few things out with some, well, local sources shall we say but get the popcorn and beer out folks.
​​​​​​​People so underestimate just who we have on the team and who/what they know . . .[/FONT]
 

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Oh now this IS "interesting" . . .


[FONT=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Stay tuned, need to check a few things out with some, well, local sources shall we say but get the popcorn and beer out folks.
People so underestimate just who we have on the team and who/what they know . . .[/FONT]

i am like a kid at xmas waiting for this to all unfold
 

Rolemars

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It takes a lot of time to gain trust and very little to lose it.

I'm so glad the RWI mods are taking action against this. We see users charging 200$ "gen like brushing", 75$ alignments, not to mention inflated prices for gen components. It's completely obvious that the main goal here is to make money, specially when 99% of the posts are in the sales section. We have plenty of trusted modders here already.
 
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I must say I thought he might be Chris Essery when he wrote the word “arse” earlier instead of “ass” as n Canadian would right it. Aussies would write “arse”. Hahaha
 
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Oh now this IS "interesting" . . .


[FONT=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Stay tuned, need to check a few things out with some, well, local sources shall we say but get the popcorn and beer out folks.
People so underestimate just who we have on the team and who/what they know . . .[/FONT]

THIS IS BORDERLINE EROTIC!!!!!!
:sFun_mischieviousbi:drinks_cheers::popcorn2::heffalump:​​​​​​​
 

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And again, one more thread that turned into that :

nQ0TS.gif


For those bothered to read it all here how it goes :

Base line : OP is always lying about everything

OP : I'll provide my ID when I get back home, you'll have everything you requested
OP : I can't give ID I'm away for coronavirus safety reason (IP shows he's not)
OP : I won't provide ID because I fear that you'll be hacked and someone open a mortgage with my info (you can't)
OP : It's not about the ID I just do what everyone else do
OP : It's about the ID, I don't understand what that would change for safety
OP : It's not about the ID, I just do what everyone else do
 

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I had some time to waste between yesterday and today, and i looked for all ofCr7juv 's sales, i don't know if i missed some, but this is what i could find:

BIG DISCLAIMER HERE: i worked on it mostly late at night and to kill some time during lockdown, so it's plausible that i could have messed up some numbers, but the result is the same, and it's outstanding

These are ONLY Cr7's sales regarding WATCHES in his 1 year and 4 months of activity on the forum:

Here are some numbers starting after October 2018:

Gross income of 2018: 1,450$
November: 2 watches
775$

December: 1 watch
675$

Gross income of 2019: 79,860$
January: 2 watches
1345$

February: 1 watch
1250$

March: 4 watches
6343$

April: 7 watches
8734$

May: 2 watches
3250$

June: 5 watches
4982$

July: 7 watches
6992$

August: 6 watches
5485$

September: 7 watches
6310$

October: 8 watches
8106$

November: 8 watches
11815$

December: 14 watches
15248$

Gross income of 2020: 22,976$
january: 14 watches
15928$

February: 7 watches
7048$

TOTAL GROSS INCOME FOR WATCH SALES: 104,286$




But i'm not done yet!




Here are the numbers regarding his SPARE PARTS and MOVEMENTS sales:
(every date corresponds to a sale, i have all the links for all his sales but they do not fit in a single post)



25/12/12 285$

7/12/19 608$

26/11/19 763$

29/10/19 450$

20/10/19 190$

15/10/19 1355$

3/10/19 430$

18/09/19 1003$

26/8/19 1070$

17/8/19 135$

16/8/19 260$

28/7/19 650$

24/7/19 266$

11/7/19 250$

9/7/19 230$

27/6/19 250$

19/6/19 300$

29/5/19 1050$

7/5/19 400$

1/5/19 1640$

24/4/19 475$

5/4/19 1590$

2/4/19 620$

11/3/19 815$

27/2/19 300$

22/2/19 455$

29/1/19 695$



TOTAL GROSS INCOME OF PARTS SALES: 12.540$


GRAND TOTAL: 116,826$



Can he still say that he's doing it just for hobby? i don't know about you guys, but my hobby drains money, it doesn't let me earn more than 110k USD (gross) in one year and four months.

Let me buy you a beer for this post.
 

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Oh now this IS "interesting" . . .


[FONT=tahoma, geneva, sans-serif]Stay tuned, need to check a few things out with some, well, local sources shall we say but get the popcorn and beer out folks.
​​​​​​​People so underestimate just who we have on the team and who/what they know . . .[/FONT]
ten5orc704844e43f6b2e4.gif
 
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Hazing

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I don’t even think the problem is making money. Sometimes I see people flipping out over $20 in the sales section and I get it but it’s a small issue. Like if I were to sell something, I don’t really want to make anything (and I’m not talking about watches or something that I used and wore in general) I just don’t want to lose money. But one of my first days on here CRJ7 contacted me and solicited a build. This was before I knew anything about anything and after he quoted me, my thought was... “this guy must see I just joined and is trying to find suckers because everything is so damned expensive”.


I exchanged a few DMs and listened to the “$200 for service, $150 to put it together, $75 alignment, $30 to waterproof it” and it just seemed utterly ridiculous for a brand new watch. And then I asked something... I think it was about the date flipping (I had a watch that had a problem and it irritated me) and setting the hands and he said he could do that too, make sure the date flips at midnight but it would be another.... I don’t know $50-80 or something. I just thought he was a con man trying to charge me the highest possible price for everything.

Then I went back to scope out a few of his previous sales and saw.... in one thread someone commented “oh and he fvcking flippped out. Like went on this huge rant about minding his own business and just a “who do you think you are? Do you know who I am?” Rant.

And i I looked through a few other threads and saw similar reactions when someone asked “oh, you used hands off of a noob sub on this Franken build? Why?” And he’d flip out. I mean flip out. After that, I was like.... ummm, nope. I’ll find someone else to do business with.



All all I could think was maybe he was trying to act like an actual Rolex AD where you get nothing but attitude and you have to masssively overpay for the simple privledge to buy a watch from them.
 
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