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Tip of the day - Royal Oak Offshore Diver Forged Carbon Swedish Pawnshop

okrona

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Tip of the day Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Diver Forged Carbon on Swedish pawnshop, currently only 10355 euros.

Scratches, a missing screw in the bracelet. No box or papers. (But this is a very big pawnshop, they sell expensive pieces all the time)

https://www.pantbanken.se/auktioner/...listposition=0
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And fake as fuck as well :lol:
 

okrona

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It is? They are usually quite good at not accepting fakes.(I bet they payed a pretty penny for it)

edit: Don't get me wrong, I don't disbelief you! - Just surpised, they sell _alot_ of expensive pieces, I'd assume they verify the goods before buying it
 
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DW + look at the mirror they have as a cyclop...
 

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Damn, ha ha... I feel sorry for the bidder Agnes bidding 10355 euros.

Any instant tells? Maybe I could give them a call and point it out and they'll de-list it...
 

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Damn, ha ha... I feel sorry for the bidder Agnes bidding 10355 euros.

Any instant tells? Maybe I could give them a call and point it out and they'll de-list it...

Just tell them to open it up and they’ll be treated by anything between a Swiss eta and a clone but surely not a genuine AP caliber. Other than that, if you know what part x is supposed to look like, you can point out differences easily.
 

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Just tell them to open it up and they’ll be treated by anything between a Swiss eta and a clone but surely not a genuine AP caliber. Other than that, if you know what part x is supposed to look like, you can point out differences easily.
Will do!

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okrona

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They replied:
"Hej 

klockan har varit öppna och kontrollerad av en klockexpert och allt är ok."

Translates to:
"Hi
The watch has been opened and controlled by a watchexpert and everything is ok."

...
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Yes as per [mention]QueTip [/mention] said the diver is a replica and yes likely a JF if you look at the hands and Datewheel.
Contrary to popular belief, pawnshops often do not know enough about watch authenticity specifically. A lot of them have the fundamental tools like caseback openers and eye loupes but not enough knowledge to tell if a watch is 100% genuine or a replica. I have seen my fair share of replica watches sold by pawnshops and at least 2 embarrassing cases involving the police.
On a side note, the dial and dive bezel are decent. For me it’s the datewheel, hour hand and cyclop which give it away for me.
If the watch has been “checked out and found ok” then please do not ever deal with this pawn shop or the watchsmith it uses.


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okrona

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WOW - I didn't back down(thanks guys, I'm just a nooblet) and required the name of the klockexpert that had gave the "OK" for this watch because it so clearly looks like a rep(I pointed out the things you guys said) and now the watch is removed from the website!

I'm awaiting their feedback.

In theory, you guys saved a bidder(Agnes) from loosing 10355 euros, well done boys! You should feel good :)
 

okrona

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Wow, bullshit excuse deluxe.. "The customer that pawned this watch has payed back on his loan on it so we removed it from auction"
 

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Wow, bullshit excuse deluxe.. "The customer that pawned this watch has payed back on his loan on it so we removed it from auction"

Well done for persisting, you've saved someone from making an expensive mistake