AP 15500 41mm

[BIONONE]

Maybe I should start my own YouTube channel: "Watch Hater" I will be the refreshing dose of spleen in that sea of vapid You Tube fan boys.

it would definitely help desaturate this dilemma - without a doubt.

 

[Tigerdragon]

Let me be your guest

 

[kobe24]

ZF get the black genuine watch, and JF get the blue one....wow!

 

[peterpl]

hopefully some super close reps coming up soon. The movement gonna be a pita though I think?

 

[hm11esh]

hoping they hit this one out the park on the first attempt. I would go for the black dial but lets see what JF can do with the blue

 

[slaughterer62]

Let me be your guest

With pleasure...

 

[Jurgenk]

Thanks BIONONE for the vote of confidence. Of course the Frankfurt AP boutique knows nothing of my involvement with their watches nor do I want them to: I am just another name on their mailing list that perhaps might one day buy a watch from them, a shot in the dark which they invite for champagne aperitifs to ogle their new frosted gold finishing techniques, or their new Code 11.59 catastrophe. I must say: I am increasingly feeling like an outsider in AP circles and I am trying to understand why that is because I used to like AP as my favorite brand up until 2014 or so. Unfortunately, it is also happening with Panerai as well for me: I actually dislike most everything that Panerai is releasing these days. What new releases inspire me? Ressence for high tech innovation, Rexhep Rexhepi for classic beauty, Linde Werdelin for the ornate luxury sports designs, FP Journe for audacious and sovereign watchmaking ... even Hermes for fashion elegance. Placed against those competitors, AP has fallen by the wayside, for me, in ALL categories: AP has become an arrogant fashion watch monstrosity which absolutely needs the viral Instagram overexposure and expensive brand ambassadors and payrolled bloggers (pace Hodinkee) in the lumbering and wasteful AP marketing/illusion machine to sell these poor designs to new money watch fashionistas. I will not say AP is the new Hublot, but it is like a horological pendant to the champagne industry: AP is the new Veuve Cliquot. Veuve Cliquot makes a mediocre biscuity/lemony champagne and needs to promote it through golf and tennis tournaments and expensive sommelier junkets, driving up the price for the normal consumer, who receives in return just an average champagne, while financing through each purchase those 8 course dinners in the castle in Rheims for the league of Michelin star restaurant beverage managers, etc. Look at the Bennahmias blonde trophy wife, look at the Bennhamias yacht in St. Tropez, listen to his arrogant interviews, register his claims to being on the pulse of the times with his surreally pretentious ad campaign for Code 11.59 with has-been basketball stars doing rap songs that herald the AP brand innovation and crazily choreographed cyborg dance troupes a la Super Bowl half time shows dancing to the beat of AP's daring. It is a frankly insane and desperately glitzy and superficial cover up trying to mask the fact that the actual watches AP are designing and selling for mega bucks these days are really not so good and a travesty towards their tradition and founder families.

This sequence of missives have to be some of my favorite slaughterer62 diatribes of all time. The images of excess and arrogance. And I started off receptive to this latest concept...

Also must second the thought that Panerai has lost its way— but they started sliding earlier, and with much lower levels of watchmaking sophistication at the beginning.

 

[EkaSN]

I know everybody likes to be upbeat and give out alot of backslaps when it comes to expensive European luxury watches, but for me only maybe 5% of new watch designs are remotely attractive or "wearable": in this spectrum, the 15500 is horrible. I even gave AP the benefit of the doubt.. I went to the AP boutique in Frankfurt. I tried on the genuine 15500 in store. I hated the dial, I hated the hands (especially the seconds hand), I hated the mid-case, and I hated the movement. I told them they should fire their CEO. I actually said to them: "Get rid of Bennahmias." Of course, it is a matter of taste, and some people seem to like the 15500, but for me, I dislike this watch intensely. I have no hope for AP until they get rid of their current CEO. I will go even further: I do not understand how anyone with a liking for the previous Royal Oaks can, in all honesty, actually like the 15500 except as a vehicle for profit, an advantage for flippers being the bubbly market right now. Forget AP for now.

What a words from you sir..couldnt agree anymore..
regards from third world country..

 

[slaughterer62]

Jurgenk and EkaSN ... thanks for the kind words.

 

[N0tail_]

15500 just doesn't compare to the 15400 :sad:

 

[Tigerdragon]

 

[BIONONE]

The DW font looks straight canal St...

 

[slaughterer62]

 

[BIONONE]

They will also laugh at all the people who will buy this release while they are enjoying their good old gen references in their lambo...

but now i will quit my negativity in this thread hehe

 

[slaughterer62]

They will also laugh at all the people who will buy this release while they are enjoying their good old gen references in their lambo...

but now i will quit my negativity in this thread hehe

 

[majwilliams0308]

ZF get the black genuine watch, and JF get the blue one....wow!

Thank you for this. Hopefully this means JF will up their game and come out with a decent attempt, knowing that ZF typically has strong offerings. This could mean a big benefit to those who are interested in the 15500! Any idea on how long this rep will take?

 

[Tigerdragon]

normally 5-8 month

 

[trtr]

As much as I'm a fan of the 15400, I saw a black dial for sale and it looks really good I must say.

 

[legend]

As much as I'm a fan of the 15400, I saw a black dial for sale and it looks really good I must say.

I agree with you. The appreciation for both the 15400 and 15500 isn’t mutually exclusive. I own both the gen 15400 and 15500 and they wear differently, and I like them both.



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[Rolemars]

Saw this yesterday on social media, though it would be fitting to this topic.

All gen of course.