SIHH 2019: AP predictions

[SHB]

Rip old good ap design

 

[davidws]

I just want this grey ceramic:

 

[Digital.]

That’s more like it and this 38mm is going to fit most people very nicely ...

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[Spatiumtemporis]

Ap just committed suicide... So sad. I bet no maker would even bother to fake this.

 

[Richard Million]

That’s more like it and 38mm is going to fit most people very nicely ...

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Nice


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[Tigerdragon]

15400 vs. 15500

The other models are ok but the new 15500 could be the easiest rep ever.

 

[Digital.]

Can’t see how they move the DW so far over

 

[tosoboso]

I'm glad red1 is lending some support to my concerns: the factories will have to invest some ingenuity to get right the new 15500 datewheel alignment, harder than any previous RO reference (the notorious ROO date window gap is not being discussed here). Here's why:
1. AP cal 3120 diameter: 26.60mm;
2. ETA cal 2824-2 & 2836-2 diameter: 25.60mm;
3. Miyota 9015 diameter: 25.60mm;
4. Patek cal 324SC diameter: 27.00mm;
5. ETA 2894-2 diameter: 28.00mm;
6. ETA 7750 diameter: 30mm;
7. AP new cal 4320: 32mm.

Now, we don't have to be engineers to start contemplating that JF (or any other factory for that matter) will have to start producing grand datewheels that will have the square footage of half a dial As BIONONE has rightly pointed out it's anyone guess what issues a datewheel overlay of this size can cause.

So while it seems an easy task to replicate the new 15500 I'd think that AP had something in mind when developing the new calibre. Probably they just had enough of JF's 15400s and 15703s and decided to change tack. It's been relatively easy for the factories to replicate the date window position of the AP refs using cal 3120 or PP using cal 324, but this new calibre is 5+mm bigger in diameter so that's not something we should overlook. I don't think it's too much too early to suggest that the factories will start looking at the good old 7750 as a base for the 15500 model. It beats at the same rate and is nearly as good looking

 

[Tigerdragon]

isnt 7750 a chrono movement?

 

[tosoboso]

isnt 7750 a chrono movement?

It is. But then again the factories used to use it as a base for Panerai OP III which too is based on ETA 7750 but has no chrono function.

 

[asanibal]

It is. But then again the factories used to use it as a base for Panerai OP III which too is based on ETA 7750 but has no chrono function.

That would be a good start
A 7750 as non chrono for date position

 

[Tigerdragon]

But the dimensions are to high? AA7750 was between 1.2 and 1.4 mm?

 

[Drifter]

Spotted this also

Not sure if I can get used to new styling....

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[Digital.]

Spotted this also

Not sure if I can get used to new styling....

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I do like this one. If it looks good in a picture, you can bet when you have it in your hand and see the quality of the finish it will look even better..

 

[SuperLory]

I do like this one. If it looks good in a picture, you can bet when you have it in your hand and see the quality of the finish it will look even better..

It doesnt look good in a highly edited photo to begin with...

 

[Digital.]

It doesnt look good in a highly edited photo to begin with...

I like the blue dial and the flyback, it’s all subjective.

 

[tosoboso]

I like the blue dial and the flyback, it’s all subjective.

There’s no such thing as subjectivity. You need to like the new 11.59 line. After all, they spent nearly a decade developing it, to look like an ordinary round watch ​

 

[Digital.]

There’s no such thing as subjectivity. You need to like the new 11.59 line. After all, they spent nearly a decade developing it, to look like an ordinary round watch ​

Can’t help but like it sorry...

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[MrOptional]

Maybe this will grow on us and eventually we will like it It reminds me of Ulysse Nardin a bit.

 

[m1994]

I understand the point of all, AP changed their way and their essence of the brand a little. But this may be the beginning of a great project. Probably the new models (the simple models) may seem very simple and low quality, like MIK or DW, but see this Perpetual Calendar, it looks spectacular. And have you already saw the Openworked Skeletonized Tourbillon? I think that inside the bad there is good enough too, I personally would definitely go for that PC.