Royal Oak Openworked Tourbillon - images, comparison & discussion

[TagHeuerFan1963]

These are all images of the rep from this album here: https://imgur.com/a/1VYaYmq

For those who are curios, here is the guys QC images: https://imgur.com/a/chHdNZC

(from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/8k03px/royal_oak_openwork_tourbillon_first_impressions/ )





What do you guys think? I think it looks great if you look past the thickness.




Here is the genuine (but in rose gold):

Compare to: https://www.intime03.co/audemars-pi...ition-skeleton-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a2924.html

 

[BIONONE]

Finally someone who pulled the trigger and made a review.


compared to the gen - holy cow, that is a great effort IMHO

I actually like the beveling and grain finish on the bridges. Look very nicely done.

Overall the tourbillon and so on is very decent too.

except the thickness of the watch and some very tiny parts on he dial it is a very nice and also very decent tourbillon compared to the gen and its price tag.

Enjoy it


What do you think about the bracelet and overall feel of the watch?

Is it worth the few extra bucks and is it comparable to JF?

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

Finally someone who pulled the trigger and made a review.


compared to the gen - holy cow, that is a great effort IMHO

I actually like the beveling and grain finish on the bridges. Look very nicely done.

Overall the tourbillon and so on is very decent too.

except the thickness of the watch and some very tiny parts on he dial it is a very nice and also very decent tourbillon compared to the gen and its price tag.

Enjoy it


What do you think about the bracelet and overall feel of the watch?

Is it worth the few extra bucks and is it comparable to JF?

I'm sorry but these aren't my pictures, I'm very tempted to buy one for myself though.

It's from here: https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/8k03px/royal_oak_openwork_tourbillon_first_impressions/

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

A little bump...

 

[Keylog74]

Fake it till you make it, they say... but with this, no one is going far

 

[TheSociety]

Fake it till you make it, they say... but with this, no one is going far

maybe, but depends on the car you roll up in. If it's a Mclaren/Ferrari/Lambo no one would ever ask. I'm looking into this one in RG.

 

[theREALgoat]

Very baller. I wish they'd improve the older RO tourbillon rep. It's long overdue for a change.

 

[SuperLory]

Fake it till you make it, they say... but with this, no one is going far

maybe, but depends on the car you roll up in. If it's a Mclaren/Ferrari/Lambo no one would ever ask. I'm looking into this one in RG.

Depends on where you live also.

In here you see people taking the subway sporting gen patek or RM..

This said I like it a lot...

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

Very baller. I wish they'd improve the older RO tourbillon rep. It's long overdue for a change.

No kidding, I would pay upwards of $3000 for a thin RO tourbillion with a nice crisp clean dial.

 

[theREALgoat]

No kidding, I would pay upwards of $3000 for a thin RO tourbillion with a nice crisp clean dial.

I don't think much can be done about the thickness, but adding decorative plates isn't helping.

 

[TheSociety]

Depends on where you live also.

In here you see people taking the subway sporting gen patek or RM..

This said I like it a lot...

I see this in LA a lot too but half the time they’re horrible reps. Same with NY. Must be Chinatown specials. In terms of the Tourbillon unless you’re familiar with gen vs rep it would be hard to tell. One thing I will say is that I wish the factory would just finish the tourbillon complication a little bit better. I would pay more for a better quality finish. That being say I love mine and will order an openworked one ????

 

[reppin]

I see this in LA a lot too but half the time they’re horrible reps. Same with NY. Must be Chinatown specials. In terms of the Tourbillon unless you’re familiar with gen vs rep it would be hard to tell. One thing I will say is that I wish the factory would just finish the tourbillon complication a little bit better. I would pay more for a better quality finish. That being say I love mine and will order an openworked one ????

great shot

 

[NotSoHonestAbe]

Any way to get a gold of a PVD skeleton tourbillon? I see the black PVD on some perpetual calendar royal Oaks. Does AP make an skeleton tourbillon with the black PVD? Cause that's my grail

 

[grillbrill]

This is a mini-review of my first skeleton watch, which is equipped with a tourbillon at the same time. A great start for skeleton timepieces, isn't it? You can read reviews about the 2012 original (Pl) and the 2016-2017 (YG, PG, SS) editions of the genuine watch here:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ha...xtra-thin-roya

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...ed-yellow-gold

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...ld-introducing

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...worked-steel-3

Here are some comparison photos of the SS genuine and of my replica watch. Sorry for the quality of my rep photos, they were taken with my smartphone. The gen photos are from the above-mentioned Hondikee reviews. Note: The rear barrel wheel of the rep is in silver color in reality (unfortunately my photos are not color-proof):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gU0...ew?usp=sharing

Also, you can see my hands-on video here: [video]https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UKtQGZnhGv-ZpZXw0Y3-UDWwEGK-gjK/view?usp=sharing[/video]

Details of my replica:

Factory: JF? (not sure)

Dealer: TS

Case diameter: 41 mm (without crown) (same as the geniune)

Case thickness: 12 mm (3 mm thicker than the genuine)

Front glass: sapphire with AR coating (not tested yet)

Back glass: ? (not tested yet)

Power reserve: 40+ hrs

Power reserve indicator: decoration only (not working)

Lume: 3/5 (in my subjective scale)

Frequency: 28.800 bph (4 Hz)

Accuracy: +1s/day (worn)

Issue: From the viewpoint of the bracelet shortening two bracelet screw links were defective. One of them was hardly removable, hammer hitting was necessary to remove it. The other defective link could not be removed.

Pros

This watch is a (time) piece of beauty. If you like the AP Royal Oak design, skeletonizing and tourbillon then this is your watch. I very like and appreciate how those Chinese replica watchmakers could handle those challenges that they must have faced with during the creation of this replica: skeletonizing and openworking with a tourbillon movement.

Openworking is almost perfect. You may criticize the relocation of one of the power train wheels from the right side to the left side (see the blue dot on the wheel of the rep back in my photo) but imho this hardly lessens the transparency of the left side of the replica. This minor difference might even be appreciated by those who dislike the void between 7 & 11 in the genuine watch (see eg. ASB's comment on the review posted at https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-tourbillon-extra-thin-openworked-steel-3).

My watch is damn accurate (+1s/day /worn), maybe it's the most accurate timepiece in my collection of ca. 15 mechanical watches.

Cons

The thickness: 12 mm vs 9 mm. I wish the thickness of this replica was max. 10 mm, however, I very know there are dreams that will never come true.

The bracelet: screw links may be defective, so shortening the bracelet may be challenging.

The tourbillon plate is ugly imho (see the green dot in my photo). It should have been better. This is the only part which I don't like in the replica design.

Power reserve indicator exists but non-functional.

One power train wheel is relocated which slightly reduces the transparency of the left side of the replica. Nevertheless, this can also be a gain as discussed above.


All in all, I think this watch is a great addition to my tourby watch collection and I hope it will serve me long

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r9v...ew?usp=sharing

 

[TagHeuerFan1963]

This is a mini-review of my first skeleton watch, which is equipped with a tourbillon at the same time. A great start for skeleton timepieces, isn't it? You can read reviews about the 2012 original (Pl) and the 2016-2017 (YG, PG, SS) editions of the genuine watch here:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ha...xtra-thin-roya

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/th...ed-yellow-gold

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...ld-introducing

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/au...worked-steel-3

Here are some comparison photos of the SS genuine and of my replica watch. Sorry for the quality of my rep photos, they were taken with my smartphone. The gen photos are from the above-mentioned Hondikee reviews. Note: The rear barrel wheel of the rep is in silver color in reality (unfortunately my photos are not color-proof):

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gU0...ew?usp=sharing

Also, you can see my hands-on video here: [video]https://drive.google.com/file/d/12UKtQGZnhGv-ZpZXw0Y3-UDWwEGK-gjK/view?usp=sharing[/video]

Details of my replica:

Factory: JF? (not sure)

Dealer: TS

Case diameter: 41 mm (without crown) (same as the geniune)

Case thickness: 12 mm (3 mm thicker than the genuine)

Front glass: sapphire with AR coating (not tested yet)

Back glass: ? (not tested yet)

Power reserve: 40+ hrs

Power reserve indicator: decoration only (not working)

Lume: 3/5 (in my subjective scale)

Frequency: 28.800 bph (4 Hz)

Accuracy: +1s/day (worn)

Issue: From the viewpoint of the bracelet shortening two bracelet screw links were defective. One of them was hardly removable, hammer hitting was necessary to remove it. The other defective link could not be removed.

Pros

This watch is a (time) piece of beauty. If you like the AP Royal Oak design, skeletonizing and tourbillon then this is your watch. I very like and appreciate how those Chinese replica watchmakers could handle those challenges that they must have faced with during the creation of this replica: skeletonizing and openworking with a tourbillon movement.

Openworking is almost perfect. You may criticize the relocation of one of the power train wheels from the right side to the left side (see the blue dot on the wheel of the rep back in my photo) but imho this hardly lessens the transparency of the left side of the replica. This minor difference might even be appreciated by those who dislike the void between 7 & 11 in the genuine watch (see eg. ASB's comment on the review posted at https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-tourbillon-extra-thin-openworked-steel-3).

My watch is damn accurate (+1s/day /worn), maybe it's the most accurate timepiece in my collection of ca. 15 mechanical watches.

Cons

The thickness: 12 mm vs 9 mm. I wish the thickness of this replica was max. 10 mm, however, I very know there are dreams that will never come true.

The bracelet: screw links may be defective, so shortening the bracelet may be challenging.

The tourbillon plate is ugly imho (see the green dot in my photo). It should have been better. This is the only part which I don't like in the replica design.

Power reserve indicator exists but non-functional.

One power train wheel is relocated which slightly reduces the transparency of the left side of the replica. Nevertheless, this can also be a gain as discussed above.


All in all, I think this watch is a great addition to my tourby watch collection and I hope it will serve me long

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r9v...ew?usp=sharing

Thank you so much for this great review!

 

[grillbrill]

...

Case diameter: 41 mm (without crown) (same as the geniune)

Case thickness: 12 mm (3 mm thicker than the genuine)

...

Having acquired a digital caliper I could precisely measure the case size of the watch. The exact sizes are the following:

Case diameter: 42 mm (without crown) (almost same as the geniune)

Case thickness: 12.5 mm (3.5 mm thicker than the genuine)

 

[Artie Lange]

Having acquired a digital caliper I could precisely measure the case size of the watch. The exact sizes are the following:

Case diameter: 42 mm (without crown) (almost same as the geniune)

Case thickness: 12.5 mm (3.5 mm thicker than the genuine)

Is this automatic? or must be manually wound.

 

[BIONONE]

Is this automatic? or must be manually wound.

No rotor - No automatic winding mechanism (both - the JF version and the newer Lower quality model with the fumé dial)

just like the gen.

 

[Artie Lange]

No rotor - No automatic winding mechanism (both - the JF version and the newer Lower quality model with the fumé dial) just like the gen.

Thanks, is this the JF: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-tourbillon-extra-thin-openworked-ss-skeleton-dial-on-ss-bracelet.html

What makes this one lower quality: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-tourb...orked-ss-skeleton-dial-on-ss-bracelet-v2.html

 

[BIONONE]

Thanks, is this the JF: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-tourbillon-extra-thin-openworked-ss-skeleton-dial-on-ss-bracelet.html

What makes this one lower quality: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-tourb...orked-ss-skeleton-dial-on-ss-bracelet-v2.html

my bad - mixed the threads up. Thought we were talking about the Royal Oak Tourbillon (the model without the skeleton dial)

In this case - none of the watches is made by JF

But none comes with an automatic movement.

Quality wise - please erase my comment from your memory