What AP Franken(s) do you have in the works?!

[Edgematic]

Guys, long time since I've posted. I've been reading though!
So, after going gen for a long while I got triggered again to build another franken ROO

Specs will be:
All gen safari old style, except for the movement

My question, who in the EU to use for assembly? Domi stopped working on reps (from what I've heard), slaughterer62 isn't replying and hasn't posted for a long while overhere.
Any recommendations?

 

[mrsullivan]

My question, who in the EU to use for assembly? Domi stopped working on reps (from what I've heard), slaughterer62 isn't replying and hasn't posted for a long while overhere.
Any recommendations?

I think Domi still at work yes, and Slaughterer has been busy that's maybe why he's not answered yet.



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[tinitonsi]

slaughterer62 is assembling my genstein ROO
PM him and he’ll get back to you asap

 

[mlk2000m0]

He he, thanks T. My work area is covered with a new surface with every build. The black centimeter square is made of three layers of rubber and helps organize little parts visually as I am working. The lume pots are used over and over for storing groups of components. The plastic boxes are dust protection. I am using two watchmaker horizontal lamps on each side usually, two different types of Rodico. etc. You can even see the little wooden tools I make out of peg on the lower right. I am hyperaware of fragility and susceptibility to cosmetic and mechanical damage in reps.

Great setup mate. Do share photos of your future frankens and projects.

 

[Edgematic]

Almost all the parts I need! Hands set on the way, then the movement is the only thing left.

All gen parts:

Screws on the left are aftermarket:

Looking forward to the end result! It's been 5-6 years, maybe more since I've built my previous frankens, so I'm quite excited.

 

[peterchao]

Almost all the parts I need! Hands set on the way, then the movement is the only thing left.

All gen parts:

Screws on the left are aftermarket:

Looking forward to the end result! It's been 5-6 years, maybe more since I've built my previous frankens, so I'm quite excited.

Congrats! Classic safari is my all time favourite.

Have below projects coming soon, excited too !

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[mrsullivan]

And there it is, the Vampire came out of the dark!

Just received yesterday, my 1rst franken ever, and I love it. Gen dial, Mikey's parts, case thinned, a LWO283 back in a proper working order, the overall watch feels just great, and looks even better.

Of course, some details are not gen specs, which was fully integrated from the beggining, and I plan a few adjustments on it, but I'm more than happy. Makes me feel like building another one

I have to thank slaughterer62 for his dedication and his great work, cheers.

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[jonnybaws]

Looks great, congrats! And great work from slaughterer62 too!

 

[pm-guy]

And there it is, the Vampire came out of the dark!

Awesome build! :clap_1:

 

[Tompa]

And there it is, the Vampire came out of the dark!

Just received yesterday, my 1rst franken ever, and I love it. Gen dial, Mikey's parts, case thinned, a LWO283 back in a proper working order, the overall watch feels just great, and looks even better.

Of course, some details are not gen specs, which was fully integrated from the beggining, and I plan a few adjustments on it, but I'm more than happy. Makes me feel like building another one

I have to thank slaughterer62 for his dedication and his great work, cheers.

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Verry nice!


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[mrsullivan]

Verry nice!


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Thank you, your old Noob got a lifting ;-)

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[Tompa]

Thank you, your old Noob got a lifting ;-)

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Yes and its amazing to see! Congrats buddy. You have now a watch you will be verry happy and proud of for many years. Amazing!


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[W47chl0v3r]

Question to experts here: Do 15202 come with a movement retaining rubber gasket?

 

[W47chl0v3r]

Also for anyone out there wanting to build a 15202IP franken, there is a dial for sale for $6500. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audemars-P...174366?hash=item3b4d22755e:g:DSQAAOSw1dVektql

 

[gilrob]

Also for anyone out there wanting to build a 15202IP franken, there is a dial for sale for $6500. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Audemars-P...174366?hash=item3b4d22755e:g:DSQAAOSw1dVektql

I would not trust that seller. Look at his sales record!

 

[legend]

And there it is, the Vampire came out of the dark!

Just received yesterday, my 1rst franken ever, and I love it. Gen dial, Mikey's parts, case thinned, a LWO283 back in a proper working order, the overall watch feels just great, and looks even better.

Of course, some details are not gen specs, which was fully integrated from the beggining, and I plan a few adjustments on it, but I'm more than happy. Makes me feel like building another one

I have to thank slaughterer62 for his dedication and his great work, cheers.
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Congrats on this and more importantly congrats on achieving the correct mentality for building and wearing an AP franken. You’re right in implying that some parts won’t be like the gen but does it matter in real life on the wrist? I doubt it. The 26470 AP is designed as a watch to be admired on and off the wrist but the franken is designed to be enjoyed as it is on the wrist. I think slaughterer did a good job for this.

Frankens are relatively low cost, fun and very nice looking alternatives of the gen and possesses a lot of the visuals of the gen in real life for a small fraction of the price. That’s always the main draw of these builds and I like the way your watch turned out sir.


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[wkim8732]

Managed to find a gen 15450 dial on C24 for an okay price, and decided to swoop it up. It took me quite a long time to find the 15450 dial, but yeh I am happy that I got it. I also have a fantasy 15450 black ( I didn't do research before buying haha) and a gen white date disk lined up.

will come back when it's frankened up

Right away, I can tell that the space between the A P logo is much wider on the JF compared to the gen. The "AUTOMATIC" on the gen is a font or two size bigger. However, other than that JF dial is pretty nice imo!

 

[mrsullivan]

Congrats on this and more importantly congrats on achieving the correct mentality for building and wearing an AP franken. You’re right in implying that some parts won’t be like the gen but does it matter in real life on the wrist? I doubt it. The 26470 AP is designed as a watch to be admired on and off the wrist but the franken is designed to be enjoyed as it is on the wrist. I think slaughterer did a good job for this...

...That’s always the main draw of these builds and I like the way your watch turned out sir.


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Thank you. I understand better now that frankening can lead one to an absolute 1:1 to gen built if he wants, but also to a custom whole new watch built.

In my specific case, the 1:1 copy was not the goal. But beyond the "getting close to gen" thing we all look for when going for franken, I realized that the input of gen parts and the engeneering involved to build the watches make frankening a whole specific, highly specialized, type of watchsmithing. And as such these franken have a value, technology and history on their own. Love it!

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[legend]

Thank you. I understand better now that frankening can lead one to an absolute 1:1 to gen built if he wants, but also to a custom whole new watch built.

In my specific case, the 1:1 copy was not the goal. But beyond the "getting close to gen" thing we all look for when going for franken, I realized that the input of gen parts and the engeneering involved to build the watches make frankening a whole specific, highly specialized, type of watchsmithing. And as such these franken have a value, technology and history on their own. Love it!

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Theoretically it IS possible to build a 1:1 watch like you mentioned. Gen everything 100%. But watch will still remain a genstein and not a gen with the proper provenance and pedigree. These don’t matter of course if one’s purpose is to wear a gen but like I mentioned a few times, gen ownership is a lot more than just possessing and wearing the watch. It’s an entire spectrum of experience.

Your journey has been nothing short of impressive and I do enjoy reading about it and seeing the result sir. Congrats once again on your newly minted franken.


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[mrsullivan]

... gen ownership is a lot more than just possessing and wearing the watch. It’s an entire spectrum of experience. :

True, I've been in gens for years and the whole thing is of course a major experience. I've never owned a gen AP but I guess it's even stronger with high houses like this.
I reduced the number of gen watches for the last 2 years, without being too sad about it actually (even though I still regret selling my Breguet type XXI...), as I discovered high end replicas. They're like pleasant toys, decent enough to be real valuable watches, customizable on request and fun to wear.

When it comes to frankening, and that's the feeling my 1rst AP franken gives me right now, it's a kind of watches on their own.
It's even sort of troubling, as they gather the best of both worlds somehow. They can kick gens out of your mind and make OOTB replicas feel dull.
Hell, frankening is the "ultimate watchsmithing" in the end.

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