Another option are the hands from the JF 15202 variant, unless JF is closed as well. Since XF, ZF and JF all use the same Miyota 9015 movement, the hands should all fit on the ZF 15202. Its the larger hole of the ZF dial that may present a problem.
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15202 zip by ZF
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Another option are the hands from the JF 15202 variant, unless JF is closed as well. Since XF, ZF and JF all use the same Miyota 9015 movement, the hands should all fit on the ZF 15202. Its the larger hole of the ZF dial that may present a problem.
Haha so true! What do you think about my idea to use XF or other factory hands to replace the ZF pizza disc as it is called.
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I looked at the JF hands and they also appear to have a larger pizza disc. I looked at the older version 15202 by KVF as well but neither the JF or the KVF have as good of a look as the XF hands.
I spoke to PureTime and they confirmed that XF parts are not available at the moment with no idea when they will reopen.
I believe Trusty had some XF stock but not sure if he has a 15202 and XF parts. I will email him.
Question still remains though will the XF hands work in the ZF?
I believe Trusty had some XF stock but not sure if he has a 15202 and XF parts. I will email him.
Question still remains though will the XF hands work in the ZF?
Yes XF hands will work on the ZF but I’m curious about the rationale for doing that? The XF base is smaller yes but it’ll still require a trim nonetheless. A more sensible way may be to use the xf dial (with the smaller pinion hole) and a set of modded hands from xf or zf.
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In pictures I viewed of the XF and ZF it appears the XF has smaller pizza disc, so I was not sure how much smaller of pizza disc on the hands can be used until the hole will be visible on the ZF dial.
Thank you for clearing that up I will think of which way to go.
Thank you for clearing that up I will think of which way to go.
Yes xf has the smaller hand base but it is still incorrect not just in size but shape and finish. So let’s say that the correct hand base size is x. Xf will be x+2 and ZF will be x+4 figuratively speaking. Even if x is achieved, the shape of the base and finish will still be off.
So it is up to the owner to accept what works for him. These are all reps anyway and it takes a guy with the right confidence and attitude to pull off a watch like this.
Wishing you all the best!
Hi. I just received my QC of this watch. Is it permissible to post the pictures or on here for feedback? Or is that against the rules?
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If you have a specific valid concern regarding your watch then you can ask about it.
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You may ask if you have a specific issue and post the specific pics depicting the issue.
It is not OK to post your entire set of QC pics and ask "Is is ok?"
As mentioned, if you have a specific question such as if the indices are straight at the 3 o'clock position for instance, etc. Those types of questions indicate a specific concern and are permissible. If you have accepted the QC from the TD then I believe you can post approved QC pictures, especially since you appear to be the first to have received them. I am still waiting for my QC pictures.
I have always been told that one should take the timegrapher pictures with a grain of salting as is said. If the watch is not fully wound up or the angle is wrong for the movement then it will not show accuracy.
Here is a handy chart I have used in the past:
1. Rate - How fast/slow the watch runs in seconds per day.
COSC certified, between -4 and +6 seconds per day
Excellent - +/- 7 s/d
Acceptable - +/- 20 s/d
2. Amplitude - the amount of rotation in the swing of the balance wheel
great : 270-310
acceptable : 250-270
3. Beat Error - how equal each swing of the balance wheel oscillation is.
Excellent : 0.0 - 0.5 milliseconds
Acceptable : 0.6 - 1 milliseconds
Here is a handy chart I have used in the past:
1. Rate - How fast/slow the watch runs in seconds per day.
COSC certified, between -4 and +6 seconds per day
Excellent - +/- 7 s/d
Acceptable - +/- 20 s/d
2. Amplitude - the amount of rotation in the swing of the balance wheel
great : 270-310
acceptable : 250-270
3. Beat Error - how equal each swing of the balance wheel oscillation is.
Excellent : 0.0 - 0.5 milliseconds
Acceptable : 0.6 - 1 milliseconds
This is just my opinion and from experience:
For dealer timegraphers just take a peek to see that it’s running. The shipping process will almost always change the reading on anothrr timegrapher later. I’ve even seen a few watches which ran perfectly on the dealer timegrapher but turned up dead.
If you’re serious about your watch movement, get it serviced properly when it arrives. Else just wear your watch for fun and don’t worry too much. The amplitude of 253 for your watch isn’t a concern for this movement, don’t worry.
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Finally received QC pictures. It looks good overall, but I asked for another picture of the date window with a different date showing since the date number appears slightly low in the window. Probably will accept this but just wanted to show members the watch.
