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Aps 15400 super clone 3120mvt
- Thread starter dashindark
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we can only hope for a fix. there was some rumor the 3KF movement was printed/engraved by a 3rd party so the fix was not by the movement maker. who knows the real truth?
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The decor on the movement is reallllly bad. Reminds me of the 3KF super clone movement. All the potential is there just really bad execution.
Agree with you, but you know how the rep game is played one money-milking version at a time. There is simply no incentive for the rep factories to get it right the first time.
asuwere
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I'd respectfully disagree about the execution from a business perspective. Segment your customer base and there are those that will happily buy these, those that will buy the next and better iteration, and those that will buy both. So sell to the first group right away. Manufacturing costs will be a little less and you'll reach the market faster. Then you can use the money generated by those sales to keep operations going and set up the next release.
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Exactly. Comparing (badly) machined finished movements to hand finished movements will always lead to disappointment. It's cool to finally see a clone 3120, but unless new technology arises, we'll see cost saving measures present themselves as poor finishing. We should just be happy to see these run reliably.
The Rod
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For a 500$ watch I don't find it so bad and definitely not worse than the 3kf Patek clone, at least this one is properly engraved
For a $500 watch, it is amazing, even if the movement plates are poorly finished. It is of course incomparable to the gen, but so is the cost.
Just ordered the white dial from Li. Excited to get my first AP rep.
You could alaways refinish the bridges yourself or via a watchsmith.
Of course I can. I can also rebrush the watch, refinish the case and bracelet edges, polish and align the bezel screws, silence the movement etc myself. A gen dial can be installed too if desired.
The comment was directed toward an out of box stock rep, and what it is VS the price.
Sorry for my ignorance. What is the difference between clone and super clone movements in the rep world? Can this APS movement be regarded as a super clone despite the slow date change?
Tobel
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There is none, it's just marketing gimmick. It's either a clone or it's not. In this case the 3120 is supposed to be a clone but at the same time it doesn't have the quick date change so we're wondering why not, but I don't think any modder has had their hands on one yet. It looks like it could be highly based on a gen movement but with some parts that would differ, which would explain this discrepancy
APS dial is actually terrible compared to JF and ZF. The squares are too small and not flat enough.
Like legend said, this hobby may not be for you. To make a statement as you did, provide picture comparisons. Don't expect us to take your word for it without validation.
Those are just different names given to clone movements. There is no benchmark for any movement to be called "super clones", and this is largely a subjective marketing term.
The A4130 movement, 3K 324 movement and now APSF clone 3120 movement, are all clone movements in that they are constructed like the gen, and not based on existing movement bases like the Miyota 9015 or any of the ETA variants.
Looking at his post history it kind of seems like he might be trying to get his post count up...
The sales section will show the intentions, soon. :legend:
But I always like to give the benefit of doubt whenever I can.